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By @KAPA_Flyer
    2026-04-25 19:22:24.267Z

    There's no way you just did that! 😍

    I can't express how excited I am and how long I've been waiting to have something that applies real liveries to the AI Traffic.

    Thank you so much for this!

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    1. Hi everyone,

      I just wanted to let you guys know who ever is following the progress for ATG is that I've found the issue. It lies with the default airports and any airport which parking spots have no ICAO assigned to them.

      The contrast was measured between inibuilds and default KJFK, KLAX, Flightbeam KSFO and Latinvfr KMIA and default.

      This mainly happens on console because the game can only choose a lower amount of aircraft vs on PC which is easier to populate.

      I'm going to upload a package that has some improvements with the coverage.

      1. @KAPA_Flyer
          2026-05-05 23:40:19.684Z

          Thank you, Francis!

          If you need someone to test these fixes on Xbox before rollout, I'd be happy to help!

        • In reply toKAPA_Flyer:

          Hi! Very happy to hear this reaction! I hope you guys enjoy it.
          And I hope Microsoft increases the bar from NORMAL to ULTRA on consoles.

          1. @KAPA_Flyer
              2026-04-26 15:30:45.613Z

              A review from a good friend:

              1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                  2026-04-27 16:34:20.821Z

                  Hi! this looks cool! Cowtown! We follow him.

                • In reply toLeadDeveloper:
                  @KAPA_Flyer
                    2026-04-26 22:17:57.485Z

                    The only issue I can find, is some models have a plain white livery.

                    1. Hi, awesome to see console people happy.

                      There were going to be some stuff that we'll need to figure out.
                      We are at the moment flying solo with this package.
                      But the next two things we have to adjust is the vatsim-model-matching setup and finding a way to replace all these white aircraft.
                      There's a brute way to replace parked white aircraft but unfortunately there will be an airline mismatch.
                      We will adjust the heavy airliners since they are internationals.
                      Any international flyer will cover the white aircraft until we find a way for the game to adjust it automatically the same way it does with the other aircraft.

                      We've spoken to Asobo about it. We are hoping for a response. We'll bump the conversation this week.

                      Other things that can be fixed in matter of days is the use of new lighting effects. And something that can take two weeks is the the use of tail lights which is missing at night.

                      And I can easily make the adjustments right now to mask the heavies parked at gates but it's one blockade after another as I can't even modify my listing. This is a brand new bug within the Microsoft developer site.
                      As soon as it clears up I will patch it up.

                      1. @KAPA_Flyer
                          2026-04-27 17:00:51.117Z

                          Awesome to hear, Francis.

                          I've been posting about the add-on in various places to help get more traction and people to check it out.

                          Glad to see some potential fixes are coming.

                          Lastly, do you recommend Streaming or Locally Installing the add-on?

                          1. Streaming works the same as downloading.
                            I've done some tests on the PC with downloading. It normally doesn't really install all files. It's basically half of them.

                            No one in the mainstream has posted about this. But the reality is that downloading isn't really a full service. You still need to stream the rest of the items.
                            And so, tests were done on XBOX S, X and PC. And streaming is the winner. Just because it does the same thing as downloading but you get to save HDD space.
                            We stream everything all the time.

                            1. @KAPA_Flyer
                                2026-04-28 00:52:12.323Z2026-04-28 04:05:17.146Z

                                Hmm. A user on the forums is reporting that he installed both the file containing all 130 Asobo AI Traffic models AND ATG, and the "White Tails" disappeared.

                                However, this user is in the Sim Update 5 Beta.

                                I may test this myself tonight to verify.

                                Tested in SU5B: Sadly, for me, it didn't get rid of the All-White planes, also it seems to draw on memory and the Sim will purge all AI Traffic, making the add-on useless in some instances.
                                Hopefully, there's more in SU5 Public versus Beta and issues will be minimal.

                                1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                    2026-04-28 19:45:46.043Z

                                    Hi,

                                    I believe we can handle this. We'll wait for SU5 to be released first.
                                    We did seek for help to Asobo about removing blank airlines. We haven't received any replies yet.

                                    1. @KAPA_Flyer
                                        2026-04-29 00:06:03.019Z

                                        I think you guys can handle it, too. As I said, this is a major first and a HUGE win for consoles, it just seems like the Sim itself struggles with it.

                                        Hopefully, SU5 will actually release this week and we'll see what changes.

                            2. In reply toLeadDeveloper:
                              @KAPA_Flyer
                                2026-04-26 23:12:10.485Z
                                1. Is this XBOX, right?

                                  1. @KAPA_Flyer
                                      2026-05-05 09:20:21.508Z

                                      Yes.

                                2. In reply toKAPA_Flyer:
                                  Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                    2026-04-27 16:43:04.662Z

                                    I believe we are also going to complete the entire world with all the airlines.

                                    That looks like an end-of-May, start-of-June update.

                                    1. In reply toKAPA_Flyer:
                                      @HoLeeKao
                                        2026-04-30 13:38:24.622Z

                                        Could it also be possible that ATG gives other planes different colors?
                                        My buddy Garry bought your ATG package and we did a small test , I took my Carenado F33A in the white/brown livery but he saw my plane with white/ green, the DontSink inscription and color lines were identical, only different colors. He also saw a total white airliner but I think that happens sometimes yes?
                                        Just strange that the livery that I had on my Beechcraft didn't go white like the airliner but just sort of changed color scheme .
                                        I will put two photos showing what I mean.

                                        1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                            2026-05-01 14:24:24.604Z

                                            Hi,

                                            I think that the full focus is on airlines and not GA planes. And multiplayer is not a focus of ATG. It's basically for airliner pilots.
                                            Yet, assigning colors of another 3rd party aircraft to be seen with traffic models is a knuckle in a haystack situation. You'll need to own the Carenado F33A to see the correct livery.

                                            1. @HoLeeKao
                                                2026-05-01 15:00:55.370Z

                                                Hi Max,
                                                Yeah I don't mind it that much anyway, I was just surprised my buddy that has the ATG sees my plane with these colors. Wasn't here to complain or anything, was just funny to hear him say ; Hey I thought your plane had a brown livery, not green :)

                                                1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                    2026-05-01 15:29:28.426Z

                                                    OH! :)! Roger that!

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                                                @KAPA_Flyer
                                                  2026-04-30 19:44:51.852Z

                                                  @LeadDeveloper So, Sim Update 5 released a little over 2 hours ago and it looks like AI Offline Traffic has been moved to an "Experimental" phase. Not sure what that would really entail, but I don't think it "gets along" with ATG. Seems like something Asobo needs to work on a bit further. I'll run further tests tonight.

                                                  As for ATG itself, I've done some more fiddling and it seems the following works:

                                                  • ATG: Streamed
                                                  • Asobo AI Traffic Models: Hard Installed, but only the models that ATG uses.

                                                  The White Liveries remain, but I know that'll be fixed.

                                                  1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                      2026-05-01 14:19:36.779Z

                                                      Francis has a cool patch to remove white aircraft. Forcing substitution of different liveries, and I think he's adjusting the codes for each aircraft variant with airline destinations. So hoping you won't see a Iraq A310 in KATL.

                                                      Model matching on console won't be "perfect" because at the moment you are only able to max it to MEDIUM. Until of course Asobo makes the changes. But we'll continue to talk to Asobo so they can help us.

                                                      I think we'll be streaming daily on youtube when he's done with the patch.

                                                      1. @KAPA_Flyer
                                                          2026-05-02 05:12:08.461Z

                                                          To be honest, I'm not bothered by what you replace the White Liveries with, as long as they're something. 🫡🥳

                                                          1. How's it looking for you these days?

                                                        • In reply toKAPA_Flyer:
                                                          @HoLeeKao
                                                            2026-05-01 06:45:24.223Z2026-05-01 07:47:31.384Z

                                                            So this means if you play with everything on LIVE , then there is no problems, only in offline AI Traffic?

                                                            1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                2026-05-13 18:01:53.457Z

                                                                Hello,

                                                                Apologies for the late response.

                                                                Offline AI isn't working well with ATG. It was to be live traffic.

                                                            2. In reply toKAPA_Flyer:
                                                              @OofyHD
                                                                2026-05-10 09:01:43.051Z

                                                                Will ATG be compatible for AI traffic?

                                                                1. I think this is an Asobo/Microsoft question. But I can investigate to see what drives the AI offline traffic. Because I'm seeing too many prop planes parked at jetways.

                                                                  Right now the best thing to do for us in the background is to completely get ATG ready for full override so we can improve the realism at all airports at all times.
                                                                  This will be possible once Asobo finishes fixing the cloud-marketplace services for developers (it's the simplest way to explain it). So right now ATG will operate per vanilla-rules.

                                                                  1. @OofyHD
                                                                      2026-05-15 07:38:04.135Z

                                                                      What about online multiplayer traffic?

                                                                      1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                          2026-05-15 14:22:30.026Z

                                                                          Hello!

                                                                          Regarding online multiplayer, at the current moment the focus is mainly real-time traffic. But I think in several weeks from here we'll see what type of influence the Asobo system has with multiplayer planes.

                                                                          1. @KAPA_Flyer
                                                                              2026-05-15 15:57:11.178Z

                                                                              I've noticed that ATG does in-fact cover Multiplayer, too.

                                                                              I saw no other players in the Asobo Factory liveries.

                                                                              I'll run some tests later to re-verify.

                                                                              1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                  2026-05-16 22:45:32.664Z

                                                                                  Hello, Let us know.

                                                                                  1. @KAPA_Flyer
                                                                                      2026-05-19 00:34:27.129Z

                                                                                      I can confirm ATG does work with other players' aircraft. Here's a screenshot of one at KLAS:

                                                                                      1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                          2026-05-20 14:22:53.520Z

                                                                                          Thank you.

                                                                                          1. @KAPA_Flyer
                                                                                              2026-05-24 20:09:59.847Z

                                                                                              Some more examples from the other day.

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                                                                                Dennis D Mullert @DMullert
                                                                                  2026-05-13 17:19:11.669Z

                                                                                  Hello Gang.

                                                                                  Really enjoying this addon. Two questions.....

                                                                                  1. Are there plans to expand the airlines covered in the future and add new models?
                                                                                  2. Why did I spot a Midwest Airlines DC9 at KDFW today when that airline has been out of business since 2009??

                                                                                  Thanks

                                                                                  Dennis

                                                                                  1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                      2026-05-13 17:58:23.511Z

                                                                                      Hello,

                                                                                      1- Yes. We are going to complete the world.
                                                                                      2-Midwest DC9 is just filling in versus white livery. It's going to be Delta on the next update.

                                                                                      1. DDennis D Mullert @DMullert
                                                                                          2026-05-13 18:00:29.504Z

                                                                                          Wonderful and thank you for the quick answer. Keep up the good work guys!!!!

                                                                                      2. In reply toKAPA_Flyer:
                                                                                        @HoLeeKao
                                                                                          2026-05-22 11:04:44.088Z

                                                                                          Today I did a flight from Dusseldorf to Warshaw Radom with the 787-9 Lufthansa 100
                                                                                          I did notice at Radom that there were liveries that I think aren't there normally speaking. I saw one American and a Suny .
                                                                                          But overall it looked great again, Im already so happy I see more color instead of the boring msfs stock liveries !
                                                                                          One thing for Max, this was a marketplace airport (EPRA, free on marketplace for xbox ) and everything worked very good! You can check at my stream video if you like, but you have to subscribe and put a Like Max hahahah !!

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                                                                                            Jan Schillmann @Jan
                                                                                              2026-05-20 22:42:39.907Z

                                                                                              I've tested ATG today and it runs very smooth in combination with BATC, lovely liveries. One thing I noticed for the E190, that there are shadows on the fuselage right on top of the wings. For other aircraft it is not visible. Is it a general problem of the plane or the livery?

                                                                                              1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                                  2026-05-21 11:55:21.055Z

                                                                                                  Hello Jan,

                                                                                                  We'll need to update all of these files because the way they were baked seems incorrect.
                                                                                                  We didn't do the COMP file (which creates shadows and shine, etc), but we can redo it.

                                                                                                  Thank you for showcasing the BATC with ATG.

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                                                                                                  @Muaddib
                                                                                                    2026-04-28 14:54:37.436Z

                                                                                                    Modelmatching needs alot of improvement!

                                                                                                    There are too many airlines parked at airports that should not be there!

                                                                                                    For example an Air India A320 would never be at Frankfurt Germany.

                                                                                                    Please fix this a it is wrong.

                                                                                                    1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                                        2026-04-28 19:42:54.562Z2026-04-28 22:47:28.186Z

                                                                                                        Hi,

                                                                                                        We can fix this. I don't think it will be asap because each airline will need additional lines of code.
                                                                                                        If you see a mismatch, try to toggle PARKED TRAFFIC from NORMAL to ZERO to MEDIUM.

                                                                                                        1. M@Muaddib
                                                                                                            2026-04-28 19:53:02.966Z

                                                                                                            Thank you fro fixing it!

                                                                                                            I also saw Airlines with broken liveries. For example Wizzair with wrong color and Transavia with cut short writing Trsavia.

                                                                                                            Please Check and fix this too

                                                                                                            1. Wizzair and Transavia are by Microsoft. But I think the color loss is there because we resized all textures for full optimizations. We'll fix that too.

                                                                                                              1. In reply toMuaddib:
                                                                                                                Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                                                  2026-05-03 13:57:04.368Z

                                                                                                                  These liveries will look normal on this week update.

                                                                                                              2. In reply toMuaddib:
                                                                                                                Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                                                  2026-05-01 14:21:39.887Z

                                                                                                                  @LeadDeveloper says he has a fix for this. He'll be experimenting with some newly added codes to each aircraft/airline variant and their destinations.

                                                                                                                  1. In reply toMuaddib:

                                                                                                                    We found out what to do. We just need full override and Asobo is currently working on a fix for this.

                                                                                                                    1. SSammy @Sam92
                                                                                                                        2026-05-20 16:16:45.208Z

                                                                                                                        Great Work!

                                                                                                                        1. Max @TechnicalAssistant
                                                                                                                            2026-05-20 21:02:34.449Z

                                                                                                                            Thank you!