First impressions
Hi there.
Thank you for the ATG livery pack. I was waiting someone would do the livery pack for MSFS 2024 native AI models. They look good: https://youtu.be/PCmxUnN29kI?si=hT2KIjLzU1ZhJgFr
You did mention that they work only with real time online. They actually work also with AI OFFLINE traffic. SU5 betas AI OFFLINE is labeled as "experimental" and it has quite good amount of GA traffic. Airliners hasnt implemnted yet, but when that happens, they will use your livery pack. Why? Because they didnt yet fixed this modelmatching bug: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/modelmatching-is-broken-with-ai-offline-traffic-custom-bgl-s/744922
AI OFFLINE method will use every model+livery that is availeble. When they add airliner traffic to the AI OFFLINE, we shall see how is the modelmatching made. This boeing 747 (your livery i assume?) has reg of N-75654 or something. So it is GA traffic aircraft but broken modelmatching made it to be 747.
https://i.ibb.co/VWgKBdzz/2026-04-25-22-09-21-Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-2024-1-7-24-0.jpg
Max @TechnicalAssistantHi
Interesting. We haven't made any 747 liveries just yet.
In reply toCorstensHangar⬆:Francis @LeadDeveloper2026-04-27 16:52:57.658ZI did a test with AI only and it gave me pure white aircraft.
But to see this is great.
Of course my test was in SU4.Thank you for this @CorstensHangar
- CCorstens Hangar @CorstensHangar
Your liveries definatly are showing with AI OFFLINE. I did
- buy your addon from marketplace
- download it
- installed it
so you liveries aro not streamed. I think Su5 will be the key here, so good stuff coming.
- MIn reply toCorstensHangar⬆:@Muaddib
Is there a performance, LOD and light imrpovement compared to AIG or FSLTL or FSTraffic models? And how accurate is the livery injection? Do I See the correct liveries according to the Region on airport ground?
Francis @LeadDeveloper2026-04-28 22:47:04.460ZFrom what I see for myself on either XBOX X and PC, the game behaves the same when traffic isn't activated or on display.
In reply toCorstensHangar⬆:D Hudson @Dee318Ok Francis. The cockpit windows that we clean during turnaround are in truth filthy. That’s why they are cleaned regularly. And what I meant by the rear landing gear being too clean on all models. Not just the Qantas. Those brakes accumulate incredible amounts of carbon brake dust and are not white. It may seem I’m complaining. But that’s understandable. Francis do you remember who I am? I’ve been around since the literal beginning. I’m not the first😄😄 but I’ve been around for a while. And I wholeheartedly support you and your team! Your commitment to console is unmatched!!! That’s why I support every thing you guys do. I’ve even bought some products from you guys that I don’t even use. Just to support. My criticism is coming from the place of a family member or close friend. Not someone who is hating or trashing the product. I want nothing more than to see you and your team succeed.
- In reply toCorstensHangar⬆:D Hudson @Dee318
Francis why do the directions state normal for Xbox settings? When those names don’t exist on Xbox? You’re a developer but the settings are low, medium or off? There’s no normal setting. When you call for luggage the luggage cart goes under the plane to the other side, the rear landing gear are completely to clean, the 789 Qantas livery cockpit window is not tinted, the plane doesn’t perform well with VNAV, or follow appropriate approach and descent logic, the plane is to stiff on taxi and really doesn’t want to turn, the -8 is incredibly frame heavy and almost unusable. I’ve tried for so long to help and offer advice and suggestions for the BravoLiner but it’s fallen on deaf ears. I’ve supported you guys since day one. But it’s been so long and these issues and others haven’t been resolved or addressed after multiple updates. Lack of liveries and cockpit camera and cockpit dirty windows infuriates me! I want to love this line of planes. And I love and respect every thing you guys do! But it’s just so many things that just kills my immersion. Then I just bought ATG and the majority of the liveries are white! Frustrating! And yes Francis I followed your instructions. But I’m on Xbox so I don’t know what normal setting is. We don’t have that.
- Francis @LeadDeveloper2026-04-28 23:01:15.048Z
Hi Hudson,
You're right. It's not NORMAL it's MEDIUM.
We'll fix it.787-9 question:
This is happening because something changed in the game that now non-native aircraft like the Dreamliners are behaving like this.
I've decided to roll out a basic FS24 native just to ease these issues.The landing gear on the 787-9 Qantas in completely clean?
Okay. I will take a look at that. Thank you for bringing this up.VNAV logic hasn't been touched. Should be normal. Virgin. @HoLeeKao Have you had any issues with the VNAV?
The 787-9 is stiff on turning? I've been seeing other maneuver well. Keep in mind I fly on the X as well.
787-8 is heavy on frames? Are you using the optimized version? We already are going to roll out positive LOD's. For all variants. FS24 also isn't as smooth as fs20.
"I’ve tried for so long to help and offer advice and suggestions for the BravoLiner but it’s fallen on deaf ears." No, your words are being heard.
It's complex to explain this to the users of all the things that are happening in the background. And the fact that I have to keep it balanced for everyone. And the reason we have a forum, an email and social media is because we want to listen and talk to you all, specially you. But keep in mind modeling and fixing these aircraft isn't a like a quick oil change at your local car repair shop.
I can't roll out rushed work anymore.I'm on your side. And I will always be.
Cockpit camera can be reset and customized by you.
Liveries were done to the highest quality but need to be exported with the new model. (They aren't painted on the body, we are using the highest quality)
Dirty windows gets your angry? they are there because the real plane windows are filthty too.
But the new EFB will toggle that off for you.Yes so regarding ATG which this thread is about, please do not jump around airports looking for traffic and parked aircraft.
Load the game in one session and stick to that airport. The in-game injection is sensitive.
What airports are you having issues with, let me check them myself on XBOX X. Yes, medium settings.I've been seeing some users have better turn out versus my own experience on console.
Regarding the white-airplanes, I've reached out to Asobo a week ago in hopes on getting a hint on how to convert all those PARKED aircraft to apply the liveries that are found at the airport.
@HoLeeKaoA good night Francis, luckily I’m on my nightshift and saw your message coming in. I have a spare moment to reply.
About the luggage wagon, I have to agree with topic starter, my cart also goes under the plane to the other side.
But about the steering, vnav , just the plane functionalities I really don’t have problems. I’m on Xbox series X also and my plane steers normal, I do advice to also bind the tiller for steering, not only the rudder. And don’t taxi to fast but in normal taxi corners with 10-15 knots you can make a beautiful sharp turn.
With Vnav, I never encountered a problem that wasn’t my own fault , except one time but that was just coming out of simrate , and I do think it had to do with that because in all my flights I’ve done, and didn’t use simrate ( used it 2 times in all my time playing this game ) the vnav always worked.
And I’m not sure what topic starter means with the weight issue, I’m just wondering, if he has the correct numbers from his airframe and import those from simbrief, or if done manual, has the correct weight and balance numbers. Never had problems with the planes feeling sluggish or something. Don’t want to point a finger but I think it has something to do with his settings instead of the planes settings.
I hope this helps.